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low1994
 Post subject: notching lowers
PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 11:35 am 
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i know there was pics of someone notching out their lower arms on here somewhere, but i cant seem to find em...tryin to figure out how much n where on the arms to cut out..anyone have any helpful info for me?

If anyone has pics of that can u just post reply on this thread with em. I'm working on doing mine soon, and would like at least some type of picture to give me an idea...

thanks a lot guys.


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Heres a link to some that were done on my old isuzu by the new owner.

http://www.streetsourcemag.com/uploads/ ... M13861.jpg

http://www.streetsourcemag.com/uploads/ ... PM1881.jpg


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man correct me if im wrong but it looks like those bushings are gonna bind in the pics. the arent inline and they dont need to be notched quite that much.
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It was just to give him an idea on how to notch em not how to a-arm them. Thats why I dont like to tell people how to do shit cause someones got to chime in with some bullshit. Welcome to streetsource.


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low1994
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thanks westanbro for the flicks...im about to get into the front end of my pup tonight, i dont want to run rodeo or amigo fenders, so I am kind of steering away from drop spindles...you were the only one who gave me any type of helpful information, so I appreciate it..oh and BTW my wheels came in just today, def lookin mint, let me know about tire size..just so i can get an idea.

and if anyone can tell me...do the lower arms have to be notched that deep?? then i just weld my lower bag bracket into the notched out section,or what? looks like it would weaken the hell out of them, going that deep...let me know. thanks again.


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my plan so far for my front suspension is cutting the shock towers above the framerail and mounting my upper bag plate to the tower and mounting the lower plate to the lower c arm without notching it. i removed the shocks and did this but I havent really measured for bags in there or anything, saw it work on another pup so i ran with it. I didnt get my bags or bag brackets yet so im gonna figure it out exactly when i get em. I just wanted to give u another idea to think about.
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westanbro wrote:
It was just to give him an idea on how to notch em not how to a-arm them. Thats why I dont like to tell people how to do shit cause someones got to chime in with some bullshit. Welcome to streetsource.


sorry i was having a moment. i was wrong for that. anyways i did mine to slightly above the center of the torsion bar holes and i dont use spindes on 19s with 235/35s or 20s with 225/35s
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which way out of those dif pics would be the better way to do it/ I mean obviously its two different methods...im not going to A-arm them, but def do need to know which might work out well to lay her down nice. and whatd you do just notch them out about and inch or two?? Im using conti-tech 2500's up front...if it makes any difference.


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eatinpavement
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the last pics and the first pics are pretty much the same but just not cut as much in the last. i would leave an inch from the bottom of the notch to the bottom of the control arm and you will have enough. i use 2500 firestones which are somewhat similar to conitechs. you will probably have to reangle the upper balljoints as well if going with bigger than an 18 without spindles.
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thanks man, I am running an 18" wheel for the time being. just picked up a set of the caddy escalade ext 18"s. Im hoping i wont have to re-angle that.


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so..im back...with a few more questions like the virgin builder might be of expected...But so im tearing into my front suspension..with a good idea of what to do...as far as ball joints spindles..etc etc...ive done my fair share of work up front... but.

so I understand the sway bars can go.....but how bout the bars right next to it..(the forward support strut bar..) may be wrong with the name..but its located directly next to the sway bars..what do i do with it?? I cant leave it and notch out my lower control arms..and bag it or that bar will basically hit the steering. And I really cant just take those support bars out..and expect the lower control arms to be only held on by the bolt that goes through them through the frame,they will be solely supported on one bolt..doesnt seem to sound to me.

Eatinpavment- you obviously pulled the lower arms out, and removed those support bars and made your own (A-arm) out of it using tubular steel..

is this my only option, is everyone doing exactly that or is there something else i can do,besides fab'ing the lower arms into a-arms????

Hope someone can answer more of my helpless questioning...sorry guys...im trying to learn and do this shit myself...any help would be greatly appreciated.


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are you refering to the torsion bars?? if so i am pretty sure you can elimate them by making your lower control arms into an a-arm like in the pics
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they are radius arms. there are many ways around this. you can leave them if your using stock spindles. if using drops, you can swap sides and turn them around and relocate them to shoot to the rear, mounting to the arms the same as they are now but using the other two bolt holes for the balljoint. you can move or make a new mount for the bushing on the framerail in the new location or you can find heim joints that thread onto the bar and make brackets to use them. you can also just use a bar with a heim joint on each end from the lca to the framerail. OR you can make your lowers into an a arm. you can get creative with it. as long as there is something there to hold the lca from moving front to back. just make sure whichever you do you keep clearance for you to turn your wheel.
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